On September 4th, a new episode of The Crypto Subscription podcast was released, featuring Nikita, the BD manager at Deguard, the first Web3 VPN service. In this episode, we discussed the unique features of Deguard, the differences between decentralized and traditional VPN services, and the future of privacy in Web 3. Don't miss this engaging conversation! You can read the full text and listen to the podcast right here.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
So I want to welcome everyone to the 6th episode of the Crypto Subscription podcast. Today, we have a special guest, Nikita, the BD manager at Deguard, the first Web 3 VPN service. Nick, please introduce yourself and briefly overview what is Deguard.
So I want to welcome everyone to the 6th episode of the Crypto Subscription podcast. Today, we have a special guest, Nikita, the BD manager at Deguard, the first Web 3 VPN service. Nick, please introduce yourself and briefly overview what is Deguard.
Nikita, Deguard:
Sure. Thanks, Yoki Finance, for invite. So my name is Nikita. I'm a business developer manager at Deguard. Is an innovative Web 3 crypto VPN. We provide high level of speed and security of our VPN. Behind it all, to use our product, you don't need to use your credit or debit card.
You just connect your wallet. After that, choose any convenience for your network. And after that, you can purchase an NFT plan. It can be 1 month, 3 months, 1 year, or lifetime pass. After purchasing, you connect your wallet with NFT to our app, and you can choose any of sorts of services that we of sorts of servers, through all the world.It can be France. It can be it can be Japan or other service. And after then, you can engineer your config, and you can use 2 protocols. So it's WireGuard protocol, the most famous protocol throughout this world. But, for now, it's blocked in several countries. But, anyway, it has the biggest, like, speed rate. Or if you're buying in some blocked countries like Iran or China, you can choose less protocol. Less protocol working through over the world, but there is a problem that it's a little bit slow. But, anyway, it works. So something comes that way because at this moment we have 15k plus users of our VPN plans and actively growing and expanding.
Sure. Thanks, Yoki Finance, for invite. So my name is Nikita. I'm a business developer manager at Deguard. Is an innovative Web 3 crypto VPN. We provide high level of speed and security of our VPN. Behind it all, to use our product, you don't need to use your credit or debit card.
You just connect your wallet. After that, choose any convenience for your network. And after that, you can purchase an NFT plan. It can be 1 month, 3 months, 1 year, or lifetime pass. After purchasing, you connect your wallet with NFT to our app, and you can choose any of sorts of services that we of sorts of servers, through all the world.It can be France. It can be it can be Japan or other service. And after then, you can engineer your config, and you can use 2 protocols. So it's WireGuard protocol, the most famous protocol throughout this world. But, for now, it's blocked in several countries. But, anyway, it has the biggest, like, speed rate. Or if you're buying in some blocked countries like Iran or China, you can choose less protocol. Less protocol working through over the world, but there is a problem that it's a little bit slow. But, anyway, it works. So something comes that way because at this moment we have 15k plus users of our VPN plans and actively growing and expanding.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
That's great to hear. A lot of products in Web 3, they're struggling to find, you know, their target audience, and it seems that it's not the case with Deguard. But I generally am interested in what is the difference, you know, besides the payment method. What is the difference between a decentralized Web 3 VPN service, and traditional VPN service?
That's great to hear. A lot of products in Web 3, they're struggling to find, you know, their target audience, and it seems that it's not the case with Deguard. But I generally am interested in what is the difference, you know, besides the payment method. What is the difference between a decentralized Web 3 VPN service, and traditional VPN service?
Nikita, Deguard:
Sure. So, as we know as we know that, to use traditional VPN service, you need to, first of all, register this VPN service. You need to left your mail. You need to, like, write your password or and you can connect for the traditional VPN, your, like, social network. So in that, and connect your credit or debit cards. So in that way, you leave so much information about you for, like, Internet. So, if you have a country where VPN is blocked, and you use VPN where you, like, leave so much of your personal data, you are not safe.
Sure. So, as we know as we know that, to use traditional VPN service, you need to, first of all, register this VPN service. You need to left your mail. You need to, like, write your password or and you can connect for the traditional VPN, your, like, social network. So in that, and connect your credit or debit cards. So in that way, you leave so much information about you for, like, Internet. So, if you have a country where VPN is blocked, and you use VPN where you, like, leave so much of your personal data, you are not safe.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
Got it, got it. And do we have plans to, you know, decentralize the in some ways, the servers where the user could connect and, you know, decentralize the underlying infrastructure for VPN? Or is it mostly, like, the way that the user could use your VPN anonymously with, and paying with crypto, etc.?
Got it, got it. And do we have plans to, you know, decentralize the in some ways, the servers where the user could connect and, you know, decentralize the underlying infrastructure for VPN? Or is it mostly, like, the way that the user could use your VPN anonymously with, and paying with crypto, etc.?
Nikita, Deguard:
If we are talking about decentralization of service, we, like, have, like, some rate of decentralization of our service because we use several nodes. And the user if one node is blocked by any country, they're creating automatically new node and be like regular rate configs. But if you're talking about, like, full decentralization, as you know, one of whole VPNs on Cosmos got the sync of full decentralization of service a service throughout the world, and now we are working with that also. So we are now decentralized in a good rate, but not fully if we are talking about our servers.
If we are talking about decentralization of service, we, like, have, like, some rate of decentralization of our service because we use several nodes. And the user if one node is blocked by any country, they're creating automatically new node and be like regular rate configs. But if you're talking about, like, full decentralization, as you know, one of whole VPNs on Cosmos got the sync of full decentralization of service a service throughout the world, and now we are working with that also. So we are now decentralized in a good rate, but not fully if we are talking about our servers.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
Got it, got it. And how do you incentivize participation in the network?
Got it, got it. And how do you incentivize participation in the network?
Nikita, Deguard:
Could you please repeat your question?
Could you please repeat your question?
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
How do you incentivize people to join and participate in your network?
How do you incentivize people to join and participate in your network?
Nikita, Deguard:
Okay. Let me answer you. So, if we are talking about participants in the Web 3 network, we need to talk about the fact that many people from Web 2 space, they try to be motivated to be, like, the viewer. I think you know that we have the crypto community, it is one of the best communities in the world. We see many, like, meme coins that grow with one just because of community when the dev can be scammed and people just buy it, and this meme coin or other product has another life. So in that way, people who support, like, the idea of Web 3 that want to be decentralized, they work with that, and they support it.
Okay. Let me answer you. So, if we are talking about participants in the Web 3 network, we need to talk about the fact that many people from Web 2 space, they try to be motivated to be, like, the viewer. I think you know that we have the crypto community, it is one of the best communities in the world. We see many, like, meme coins that grow with one just because of community when the dev can be scammed and people just buy it, and this meme coin or other product has another life. So in that way, people who support, like, the idea of Web 3 that want to be decentralized, they work with that, and they support it.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
So, basically, you are targeting the users who are already in Web 3, and you don't need, you know, a special layer of incentives because people are already interested in having a VPN and having it in the anonymous way with Web 3. Right?
So, basically, you are targeting the users who are already in Web 3, and you don't need, you know, a special layer of incentives because people are already interested in having a VPN and having it in the anonymous way with Web 3. Right?
Nikita, Deguard:
Yep.
Yep.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
Yeah. With anonymity, there is always a second part, you know, as in the case with Pavel Durov and Telegram. He positioned himself as a freedom of speech absolutist, and there is a certain degree of anonymity in Telegram. There is always a second part where, if you allow anonymity in your application and in your case, you suggest that there is quite a high level of anonymity because the user doesn't leave a trace of the social network and doesn't leave a trace of the payment method, because he's paying with some crypto assets so, there are some malicious actors who need that anonymity and use these services like Telegram, like Deguard. What is your take on that? How do you handle, you know, the malicious actors using your product?
Yeah. With anonymity, there is always a second part, you know, as in the case with Pavel Durov and Telegram. He positioned himself as a freedom of speech absolutist, and there is a certain degree of anonymity in Telegram. There is always a second part where, if you allow anonymity in your application and in your case, you suggest that there is quite a high level of anonymity because the user doesn't leave a trace of the social network and doesn't leave a trace of the payment method, because he's paying with some crypto assets so, there are some malicious actors who need that anonymity and use these services like Telegram, like Deguard. What is your take on that? How do you handle, you know, the malicious actors using your product?
Nikita, Deguard:
So, you know, that in everything in if we are to talk about any, like, specifics, we will see two sides of one coin. We can see one side and the second side. If you're talking about full decentralization, full anonymity, we are talking about the first, like, side of the coin, when we can have some scammers or people who use it not for protection. They use it just for making, like, bad things. But if we are talking about centralization, we know that, like, governments and big companies will track what we are doing, and they will understand, and they will collect much information from our users and can use it in their, like, ways. As you know, for example, like, people who use iPhones or Androids the phone can listen to them. And after that, when you talk all day about needing to buy, like, pants, you will see the advertisement in Google because you were talking about buying pants. So, as we see right now, much of your data is collected. And, for example, if you're talking about the USA where you can have, like, not very popular things or sorts, you can be banned, and you’ll see a very high growth of censorship. So, there are two sides of this coin: the first side is that we will have scammers, and the second side is that we will see censorship gain every day. So, we are on the secure side, of course.
So, you know, that in everything in if we are to talk about any, like, specifics, we will see two sides of one coin. We can see one side and the second side. If you're talking about full decentralization, full anonymity, we are talking about the first, like, side of the coin, when we can have some scammers or people who use it not for protection. They use it just for making, like, bad things. But if we are talking about centralization, we know that, like, governments and big companies will track what we are doing, and they will understand, and they will collect much information from our users and can use it in their, like, ways. As you know, for example, like, people who use iPhones or Androids the phone can listen to them. And after that, when you talk all day about needing to buy, like, pants, you will see the advertisement in Google because you were talking about buying pants. So, as we see right now, much of your data is collected. And, for example, if you're talking about the USA where you can have, like, not very popular things or sorts, you can be banned, and you’ll see a very high growth of censorship. So, there are two sides of this coin: the first side is that we will have scammers, and the second side is that we will see censorship gain every day. So, we are on the secure side, of course.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
Got it, got it. Yeah, that's actually the answer that I was expecting. But have you got any cases where, you know, you caught some users doing that, or there was some request from the authorities regarding some users using Deguard in a malicious way? Have there been cases like that?
Got it, got it. Yeah, that's actually the answer that I was expecting. But have you got any cases where, you know, you caught some users doing that, or there was some request from the authorities regarding some users using Deguard in a malicious way? Have there been cases like that?
Nikita, Deguard:
Unfortunately, I can't I think that I can't share this information.
Unfortunately, I can't I think that I can't share this information.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
Okay. Yeah, absolutely. That's a great answer from the perspective of a platform that grants anonymity.I always have this "magic orb time" where I ask my guests to make, like, a forecast of the market and provide their predictions. What challenges do you foresee for blockchain adoption in the coming years, and how do you and your service prepare to address them?
Okay. Yeah, absolutely. That's a great answer from the perspective of a platform that grants anonymity.I always have this "magic orb time" where I ask my guests to make, like, a forecast of the market and provide their predictions. What challenges do you foresee for blockchain adoption in the coming years, and how do you and your service prepare to address them?
Nikita, Deguard:
So, it's a very interesting and hard topic you’ve discussed. Yeah, I think that in the future, we will see more and more people using crypto and making payments in crypto, using blockchain technologies. But I think that in the future, we will see not an increase, but, like, another process, like a decrease of many blockchains and Layer 2s. Because, as you see now, we have so many Layer 2s, and many of them are just not usable and have no use. For example, we had a very famous we have a very famous case, like, related to zkSync. They collected I think they collected 458 million from investors. And also, after the drop after one of the drops they had 97 active users in the network because they had transactions for one week. It’s crazy numbers. It's absolutely crazy numbers. And I think that we will see new crypto products and new, like, types of blockchains. And many of the current blockchains will die. I think it will be like a refresh of the market. We are talking about many, like, old altcoins. But if you check CoinMarketCap in 2017, 2014, and 2021, you will see that there are several coins that live and grow, and other coins and other blockchains, like, are dead because they just they are not needed. So I think that we will see something new, something interesting in the future related to projects. And I think that the main blockchains, like Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, will live in the future, but we'll see something more interesting and complicated for the next blockchain generation
So, it's a very interesting and hard topic you’ve discussed. Yeah, I think that in the future, we will see more and more people using crypto and making payments in crypto, using blockchain technologies. But I think that in the future, we will see not an increase, but, like, another process, like a decrease of many blockchains and Layer 2s. Because, as you see now, we have so many Layer 2s, and many of them are just not usable and have no use. For example, we had a very famous we have a very famous case, like, related to zkSync. They collected I think they collected 458 million from investors. And also, after the drop after one of the drops they had 97 active users in the network because they had transactions for one week. It’s crazy numbers. It's absolutely crazy numbers. And I think that we will see new crypto products and new, like, types of blockchains. And many of the current blockchains will die. I think it will be like a refresh of the market. We are talking about many, like, old altcoins. But if you check CoinMarketCap in 2017, 2014, and 2021, you will see that there are several coins that live and grow, and other coins and other blockchains, like, are dead because they just they are not needed. So I think that we will see something new, something interesting in the future related to projects. And I think that the main blockchains, like Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, will live in the future, but we'll see something more interesting and complicated for the next blockchain generation
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
That's a great answer. Besides having the "magic orb time," I also ask some questions regarding the business model that you have because, you know, I invite companies with a subscription-based business model to the podcast. For me, at Yoki Finance, we help companies with subscription business models to increase retention and revenue. So, it's quite interesting to gain some understanding of your experience in building a subscription-based business. My question is: How do you build a community for your VPN service? And does it make sense to have a community for a VPN service? Because, generally, VPN services in Web 2 don't have communities. So what is your attitude towards that?
That's a great answer. Besides having the "magic orb time," I also ask some questions regarding the business model that you have because, you know, I invite companies with a subscription-based business model to the podcast. For me, at Yoki Finance, we help companies with subscription business models to increase retention and revenue. So, it's quite interesting to gain some understanding of your experience in building a subscription-based business. My question is: How do you build a community for your VPN service? And does it make sense to have a community for a VPN service? Because, generally, VPN services in Web 2 don't have communities. So what is your attitude towards that?
Nikita, Deguard:
So, in my opinion, every Web 3 product must have, like, its own community because without it, it’s not a Web 3 product. Communities, like, motivate you. Every day you go to the chats, see questions from the people, see support, and we just love reading all the comments, all the things that people want us to, like, upgrade or change. We listen to different opinions from people throughout the world, and it's 100% motivating us every day to do our work.And if you're talking about Web 2 VPNs, most probably, in the very near future, we will also involve Web 2 audiences because we are now working on integrating subscription models with cards and crypto. And after that, we will see 100% user growth because now we are also working on the marketing side.Because, at this moment, we have worked only on the business development side and without any marketing. And now we see that we got not bad results. But, yes, we think that subscription models are a very important thing for every service like ours because, you know, you can use your, like, VPN and you can forget just to buy it. And after that, people will lose our clients because of just forgetting that they need to take a number for when they need to pay again to purchase a VPN plan or NFT. It's very hard for just a simple user. So, in my opinion, VPN subscription models are very important for us. And we will work with the Web 2 audience to come to Web 2+ audiences. They will know a little bit more about crypto with us something in that way.
So, in my opinion, every Web 3 product must have, like, its own community because without it, it’s not a Web 3 product. Communities, like, motivate you. Every day you go to the chats, see questions from the people, see support, and we just love reading all the comments, all the things that people want us to, like, upgrade or change. We listen to different opinions from people throughout the world, and it's 100% motivating us every day to do our work.And if you're talking about Web 2 VPNs, most probably, in the very near future, we will also involve Web 2 audiences because we are now working on integrating subscription models with cards and crypto. And after that, we will see 100% user growth because now we are also working on the marketing side.Because, at this moment, we have worked only on the business development side and without any marketing. And now we see that we got not bad results. But, yes, we think that subscription models are a very important thing for every service like ours because, you know, you can use your, like, VPN and you can forget just to buy it. And after that, people will lose our clients because of just forgetting that they need to take a number for when they need to pay again to purchase a VPN plan or NFT. It's very hard for just a simple user. So, in my opinion, VPN subscription models are very important for us. And we will work with the Web 2 audience to come to Web 2+ audiences. They will know a little bit more about crypto with us something in that way.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
That makes sense. But for me, for example, if I'm using some VPN service, VPN is a utility. Why do I want to join the community of a utility service that I’m using? That is, like, the root of my question.
That makes sense. But for me, for example, if I'm using some VPN service, VPN is a utility. Why do I want to join the community of a utility service that I’m using? That is, like, the root of my question.
Nikita, Deguard:
Okay. So, first of all, Deguard VPN will not be just a VPN, and we will have, like, our own token. And behind it all, we will have our own security protocol that we will also build as one part of our product. So, Deguard, for this moment, is just a VPN. But in the future, it will be, like, an ecosystem of products. And, for people who, for example, have bought private NFT passes, they will have an opportunity to be in our closed decentralization anonymity group in our DAO. And they will have an opportunity to talk with the whole team directly. They will see some news that will be first available for them. They will see more things, updates. And for every project and every ecosystem that has a token, it’s very important to keep in touch with these people. Because, if you're talking about Web 2 business, it's also important for them. But we know that in Web 2 business, many holders are very rigid guys, and they will get, like, information directly from the founders. But if you're talking about the Web 3 community, we have a very big influence from just simple guys in Web 3 crypto guys and they need to understand that we are building. We are making the project better every day, and we are getting results.
Okay. So, first of all, Deguard VPN will not be just a VPN, and we will have, like, our own token. And behind it all, we will have our own security protocol that we will also build as one part of our product. So, Deguard, for this moment, is just a VPN. But in the future, it will be, like, an ecosystem of products. And, for people who, for example, have bought private NFT passes, they will have an opportunity to be in our closed decentralization anonymity group in our DAO. And they will have an opportunity to talk with the whole team directly. They will see some news that will be first available for them. They will see more things, updates. And for every project and every ecosystem that has a token, it’s very important to keep in touch with these people. Because, if you're talking about Web 2 business, it's also important for them. But we know that in Web 2 business, many holders are very rigid guys, and they will get, like, information directly from the founders. But if you're talking about the Web 3 community, we have a very big influence from just simple guys in Web 3 crypto guys and they need to understand that we are building. We are making the project better every day, and we are getting results.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
Could you tell more about the plans for the token? When will it launch? When’s the drop?
Could you tell more about the plans for the token? When will it launch? When’s the drop?
Nikita, Deguard:
So, most probably, it’s very hard to say, but most probably, we will launch our token in Q2 of 2025.
So, most probably, it’s very hard to say, but most probably, we will launch our token in Q2 of 2025.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
What will be the utilities for it? Will community members be able to participate in governance of the product?
What will be the utilities for it? Will community members be able to participate in governance of the product?
Nikita, Deguard:
Yep. Yep. It will also be one of the things for the token the usability that you have. Also, the token will be a payment method for products from our ecosystem. Like, a bigger amount. Also, from buying our product, we will, like, burn some of our tokens. And it will be like our stocks or something like that.
Yep. Yep. It will also be one of the things for the token the usability that you have. Also, the token will be a payment method for products from our ecosystem. Like, a bigger amount. Also, from buying our product, we will, like, burn some of our tokens. And it will be like our stocks or something like that.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
Oh, so you're planning to introduce the deflationary model with token burning?
Oh, so you're planning to introduce the deflationary model with token burning?
Nikita, Deguard:
Yep.
Yep.
Nikita, Deguard:
How can we ensure that users stay with Deguard?
How can we ensure that users stay with Deguard?
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
Yeah. What do you do, like, product-wise and marketing-wise, to ensure that users stick with your product and don’t, you know, switch to other services?
Yeah. What do you do, like, product-wise and marketing-wise, to ensure that users stick with your product and don’t, you know, switch to other services?
Nikita, Deguard:
You know, it's very hard for me to answer, but in fact, we are just building the best we are building and will build the best VPN with the best conditions. So I believe that every user, when they just try and, like, compare us with other VPNs, will understand why we are the best and will stay with us if they have a need for using VPN.
You know, it's very hard for me to answer, but in fact, we are just building the best we are building and will build the best VPN with the best conditions. So I believe that every user, when they just try and, like, compare us with other VPNs, will understand why we are the best and will stay with us if they have a need for using VPN.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
That’s a great answer. Practice makes perfect, and when you offer the best product, people tend to stick with it. And what payment options you’ve already touched on that briefly, and, as the I’m also the founder of Yoki Finance, the Web 3 subscription payment gateway that helps companies and communities accept subscription payments in crypto I’m asking: What are the payment options that you currently accept and plan to integrate into your service?
That’s a great answer. Practice makes perfect, and when you offer the best product, people tend to stick with it. And what payment options you’ve already touched on that briefly, and, as the I’m also the founder of Yoki Finance, the Web 3 subscription payment gateway that helps companies and communities accept subscription payments in crypto I’m asking: What are the payment options that you currently accept and plan to integrate into your service?
Nikita, Deguard:
So, for this moment, we already integrated several networks, and now we are actively working on integration into our dApp. For this moment, we’ve already integrated Binance Smart Chain, Polygon, Arbitrum, Base, Blast, Linea, and Flareon networks. So, it’s seven. And now we are actively working on integrating TON. So you can, like, pay in the native token of every chain. Choose any convenient network for you, and pay in the native token of that chain. For example, Binance Smart Chain’s native token is BNB, and others are similar. Now, we are actively working on integrating subscription models with web 2 cards for people from all over the world to involve the web 2 audience. And we will make some marketing for them. And, in September, we will be actively working with Yoki Finance to also make a subscription model for crypto users. So, in September, you will see from 0 to 100% subscription models for crypto users, Web 3 users, and Web 2 users.
So, for this moment, we already integrated several networks, and now we are actively working on integration into our dApp. For this moment, we’ve already integrated Binance Smart Chain, Polygon, Arbitrum, Base, Blast, Linea, and Flareon networks. So, it’s seven. And now we are actively working on integrating TON. So you can, like, pay in the native token of every chain. Choose any convenient network for you, and pay in the native token of that chain. For example, Binance Smart Chain’s native token is BNB, and others are similar. Now, we are actively working on integrating subscription models with web 2 cards for people from all over the world to involve the web 2 audience. And we will make some marketing for them. And, in September, we will be actively working with Yoki Finance to also make a subscription model for crypto users. So, in September, you will see from 0 to 100% subscription models for crypto users, Web 3 users, and Web 2 users.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
So you are the first guys to hear that great news about the new integration that is happening. So, you will be able to subscribe to your favorite VPN service the first Web 3 VPN service using your crypto wallet just like you would with your bank card. And you will be able to automatically renew your access to the platform. My next question is: What’s next for your decentralized VPN service? What could users expect in the coming months, besides the new payment integrations?
So you are the first guys to hear that great news about the new integration that is happening. So, you will be able to subscribe to your favorite VPN service the first Web 3 VPN service using your crypto wallet just like you would with your bank card. And you will be able to automatically renew your access to the platform. My next question is: What’s next for your decentralized VPN service? What could users expect in the coming months, besides the new payment integrations?
Nikita, Deguard:
So, first of all, in September, users will see more updates in our Telegram mini-app. As seeing that we are also building, users will see more integration and features for Web 2 users. For example, we will add an opportunity to register, like, to log in and log out on Deguard dApp. So, it's an option for Web 2 users, as they have some troubles understanding crypto. And it's better for them to start with simple Web 2 things in that way. So, we will add this as well. We will add a referral program to our mini-app. We will add synchronization of our mini-app and our main app. And, beyond all that, in October, we will make a very big marketing campaign and we will have a big influx of new users. Also, in addition to building the whole product, our CEO, Igor, will be at Token2049 in Singapore in September.
So, first of all, in September, users will see more updates in our Telegram mini-app. As seeing that we are also building, users will see more integration and features for Web 2 users. For example, we will add an opportunity to register, like, to log in and log out on Deguard dApp. So, it's an option for Web 2 users, as they have some troubles understanding crypto. And it's better for them to start with simple Web 2 things in that way. So, we will add this as well. We will add a referral program to our mini-app. We will add synchronization of our mini-app and our main app. And, beyond all that, in October, we will make a very big marketing campaign and we will have a big influx of new users. Also, in addition to building the whole product, our CEO, Igor, will be at Token2049 in Singapore in September.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
That’s interesting. And what will be the utility of that mini-app in Telegram? Will we be able to tap into it like the hamster combat?
That’s interesting. And what will be the utility of that mini-app in Telegram? Will we be able to tap into it like the hamster combat?
Nikita, Deguard:
We have thoughts in this way, but, in fact, it's very great to use mini-apps to involve, like, the Web 2 audience. Just think that we have so many people using Telegram, and they will believe that to use VPN, they just need to go to Telegram and make two clicks to be connected to the VPN network. It's amazing because, usually, users if they have a subscription in a simple VPN they need to go to the app and then choose a convenient server, and it’s a little bit hard for them. In this way, it’s the easiest way to connect to VPN. So I believe it’s a very interesting utility for the Web 2 audience. It’s very easy two clicks and you’re connected. Something like that.
We have thoughts in this way, but, in fact, it's very great to use mini-apps to involve, like, the Web 2 audience. Just think that we have so many people using Telegram, and they will believe that to use VPN, they just need to go to Telegram and make two clicks to be connected to the VPN network. It's amazing because, usually, users if they have a subscription in a simple VPN they need to go to the app and then choose a convenient server, and it’s a little bit hard for them. In this way, it’s the easiest way to connect to VPN. So I believe it’s a very interesting utility for the Web 2 audience. It’s very easy two clicks and you’re connected. Something like that.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
When I connect to the VPN inside the Telegram mini-app, is my data only going through the tunnel inside Telegram, or is it all the data on my phone that is going through the tunnel?
When I connect to the VPN inside the Telegram mini-app, is my data only going through the tunnel inside Telegram, or is it all the data on my phone that is going through the tunnel?
Nikita, Deguard:
So, when you use this Telegram app, some of the data really will not be decentralized it’s part of Telegram. But when you use Telegram in any way, you will use protocols as in the dApp version. So it’s WireGuard and Flash protocols. So the part where you authorize in Telegram really isn't decentralized, it’s like any authorization in a product. But for the rest, it works like in the dApp.
So, when you use this Telegram app, some of the data really will not be decentralized it’s part of Telegram. But when you use Telegram in any way, you will use protocols as in the dApp version. So it’s WireGuard and Flash protocols. So the part where you authorize in Telegram really isn't decentralized, it’s like any authorization in a product. But for the rest, it works like in the dApp.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
My question is, if I’m using your mini-app, will only the data inside Telegram be, you know, encrypted and sent through the VPN, or will it be all the data I’m using on my device?
My question is, if I’m using your mini-app, will only the data inside Telegram be, you know, encrypted and sent through the VPN, or will it be all the data I’m using on my device?
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
Wow. That’s big, actually. And that’s a pretty good user experience not having to install any new application or go somewhere else, and having it right inside your messenger. Is it the first time something like this is being done?
Wow. That’s big, actually. And that’s a pretty good user experience not having to install any new application or go somewhere else, and having it right inside your messenger. Is it the first time something like this is being done?
Nikita, Deguard:
Yep.
Yep.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
Well, that’s pretty big news. I really expect a lot of Web 2 people to join with that. That’s great. So, we are wrapping up the conversation. Any final words, and maybe the best way for listeners to learn more about and get involved with the product?
Well, that’s pretty big news. I really expect a lot of Web 2 people to join with that. That’s great. So, we are wrapping up the conversation. Any final words, and maybe the best way for listeners to learn more about and get involved with the product?
Nikita, Deguard:
So, everybody can just they can just join our Telegram chat. They can join our Telegram group, and they will know everything about, like, being the first member. So, users, please join the community and Yoki Finance community to stay connected and see all the new updates first.
So, everybody can just they can just join our Telegram chat. They can join our Telegram group, and they will know everything about, like, being the first member. So, users, please join the community and Yoki Finance community to stay connected and see all the new updates first.
Konstantin, Yoki Finance:
Thank you very much, Nikita. It was Nikita, the BD manager of Deguard, on the 6th episode of the Crypto Subscription podcast, where we have the best subscription-based crypto products in the market. See you next time.
Thank you very much, Nikita. It was Nikita, the BD manager of Deguard, on the 6th episode of the Crypto Subscription podcast, where we have the best subscription-based crypto products in the market. See you next time.
Nikita, Deguard:
See you to Yoki Finance. Have a nice day. Bye-bye.
See you to Yoki Finance. Have a nice day. Bye-bye.
